Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/31/1994 08:00 AM House STA

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  HB 430 - LICENSING REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVERS                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 430, sponsored by REPRESENTATIVE                    
  JOE GREEN, for discussion.  He recognized a new committee                    
  substitute was before the committee.  He asked if there was                  
  a motion to adopt CSHB 430, version E.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 332                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS so moved.                                            
                                                                               
  Number 335                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, hearing no objection, adopted CSHB 430.                      
                                                                               
  Number 337                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN, sponsor, addressed CSHB 430.  He                   
  stated at the previous hearing regarding HB 430 there had                    
  been a question about young persons who might be employed                    
  after the one o'clock curfew.  He directed the committee to                  
  page 2, beginning line 25, which addresses this question.                    
  So long as the person who may have been driving is driving                   
  to or from, on the most direct route, his place of work to                   
  his place of living, he/she would be excluded.                               
                                                                               
  Number 357                                                                   
                                                                               
  JUANITA HENSLEY, CHIEF OF DRIVER SERVICES, DIVISION OF MOTOR                 
  VEHICLES, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY (DPS), answered                        
  questions on CSHB 430.  She directed the committee to a                      
  letter of March 18, 1994, which was written to her by the                    
  Trauma Registry Coordinator, Emergency Medical Services                      
  Section, Department of Health & Social Services.  The letter                 
  stated the average cost of hospitalization for a person                      
  under the age of 21 involved in a serious accident is                        
  $25,984.  This cost does not include rehabilitation costs or                 
  costs to the physicians themselves.                                          
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY reviewed a second table entitled, 1992 ALASKA                    
  DRIVERS IN TRAFFIC CRASHES, prepared by the roadway and                      
  accident file from DPS.  This table states the number of                     
  licensed drivers in Alaska, their ages, and the percentages                  
  of those drivers.  She pointed out the age group that CSHB
  430 addresses only comprises 6.2 percent of all licensed                     
  drivers in the state of Alaska.                                              
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY compared that percentage to the next chart                       
  entitled, ALASKA YOUTH CRASH STATISTICS - 1979 THRU 1992.                    
  The 16-20 age group is over-represented in the number of                     
  crashes, and the number of injury and fatal crashes, they                    
  have.  She noted in 1992, Alaska had a total of 89 fatality                  
  crashes including all ages.  Of these 89 crashes, 21                         
  involved youth.  Therefore, they represented 23.6 percent of                 
  the total fatal crashes in Alaska.  In 1992, Alaska had a                    
  total of 50 alcohol crashes, of which nine involved youth.                   
  Therefore, 42.9 percent of youth crashes involved alcohol.                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY examined the third chart entitled, ALASKA YOUTH                  
  CRASH DEATH STATISTICS - 1979 THRU 1992.  This chart stated                  
  of the 89 total crashes in 1992, there was a total of 108                    
  deaths.  Of the 108 deaths, 25 or 23.1 percent were youth.                   
  Of the 89 total crashes, there were 61 alcohol fatalities,                   
  10 of which involved youth.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 417                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified 41 percent of alcohol related                       
  accidents involved people under 21.                                          
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY corrected 40 percent.                                            
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY referred to another pie chart entitled, 1992                     
  INJURY AND FATAL CRASH DRIVERS, which breaks down two hour                   
  segments of time in a day.  She pointed out in 1992, 32                      
  percent of injury and fatal youth crashes were between 8                     
  p.m. and 6 a.m.  She repeated the 16-20 age group is only                    
  6.2 percent of the licensed drivers, as opposed to the other                 
  92 percent which are over the age of 21.  In comparison of                   
  the two age groups, the 1992 injury and fatal crashes                        
  between 8 p.m. and 6 a.m. involve 32 percent of youth,                       
  whereas only 23 percent involve those 21 or older.                           
                                                                               
  Number 446                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired if he could assume all of the                        
  fatalities involving youth occurred between the hours of 8                   
  p.m. and 6 a.m.                                                              
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY answered of the 32 percent, yes.                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN clarified not all teenage deaths occur                  
  during those hours, just a propensity.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 451                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if was correct in assuming that all of                  
  the alcohol related teenage fatalities occurred between 8                    
  p.m. and 6 a.m.                                                              
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY replied she had not done that chart; however,                    
  she could get that information transmitted from Department                   
  of Transportation.                                                           
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY commented the injuries and fatalities are                        
  basically the same for youths and those over 21, even during                 
  mid-day for the same amount of drivers.  She emphasized the                  
  youth only make up 6.2 percent of drivers, therefore they                    
  are over-represented in the statistics.                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified 6.2 percent.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 462                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY stated 12.9 percent of the overall crashes in                    
  Alaska involved youth under the age of 21.   She noted 12.9                  
  percent was quite high for only comprising 6.2 percent of                    
  the licensed drivers.                                                        
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY referred to an article entitled, STATUS REPORT,                  
  March 19, 1994, by the Insurance Institute For Highway                       
  Safety.  This report addresses the intent of CSHB 430 and                    
  how it proposes to reduce crash rates and fatalities.                        
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY referred back to the letter sent to her by the                   
  EMS which showed the average hospitalization cost is $25,984                 
  for each individual, per accident.  She did not know what                    
  percentage did not involve insurance or what the societal                    
  cost to the state was.  She believed, however, it would be                   
  quite substantial.  She stated 184 patients were in this                     
  category where the average cost of hospitalization was                       
  $25,984 per patient.  The physician fees and rehabilitation                  
  costs were not included in this average.  She noted 21                       
  patients, or 11.4 percent, were discharged with                              
  disabilities, and 11 patients were discharged to a                           
  rehabilitation center.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 497                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the group of drivers under the age                  
  of 21 represented 6.2 percent of the driving population.  He                 
  stated 32 percent of the total injury and fatal crashes,                     
  between the hours of 8 p.m. and 6 a.m. involved youth.  He                   
  inquired if the statistic meant injury and fatality, or                      
  injury and/or fatality.                                                      
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY answered injury and/or fatality.  She compared                   
  that number to individuals over 21 who are involved in 23                    
  percent of the crashes.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 530                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked what percentage of fatalities youth                     
  were involved in.                                                            
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY replied 42.9 percent were involved in fatal                      
  crashes.  Youth deaths were 40 percent of the 108 fatalities                 
  in 1992.  She emphasized they only represent 6.2 percent of                  
  all the licensed drivers.  She pointed out this trend is                     
  nationwide.  She hoped to be able to present a chart                         
  examining the statistics based on the days of the week.  For                 
  example, were Friday and Saturday nights higher than Monday                  
  through Thursday.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 547                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER stated she believed the numbers were                    
  very convincing and she moved to pass CSHB 430 out of                        
  committee.  She complimented MS. HENSLEY on the charts.                      
                                                                               
  Number 552                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked where the charts came from.                        
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY responded they were developed from information                   
  received from the Highway Safety Planning (HSP) agency.  The                 
  Governor's representative for HSP put together the pie                       
  chart.  The information for the pie charts was received from                 
  DOT's roadway and accident files.  She noted DOT has a                       
  complete database of all the accidents occurring in Alaska.                  
                                                                               
  Number 559                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT inquired about the non-pie charts.                       
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY answered the non-pie charts were also put                        
  together by HSP.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 561                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT commented the numbers represented for                    
  the total fatalities for those drivers under 21 did not                      
  explicitly prove to him that youths were behind the wheel                    
  driving.  They could have only been in the vehicle.                          
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY replied REPRESENTATIVE KOTT was correct;                         
  however, statistics broken down by the age of the driver,                    
  show teenage drivers are usually behind the wheel.                           
                                                                               
  Number 572                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT gave the example of a 17 year old                        
  fatality involved in an accident where the parents were                      
  driving.  He noted this type of fatality would be included                   
  in the chart.  He questioned the statistics given.                           
                                                                               
  Number 576                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN believed the debate was going from                      
  "statistics to fantasy..."  He suggested, by the same                        
  example, that a mature driver could be driving whereby a                     
  teenager was killed, or the reverse.  He believed the                        
  question was not germane to CSHB 430.  He reminded the                       
  committee of the rates insurance companies charge for                        
  drivers in the under 21 category, versus the mature driver.                  
  He noted there is a reason the cost for young drivers was                    
  more than twice as much.                                                     
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT stated he was trying to draw some                        
  correlation between a youthful driver and their action.  He                  
  stated this was the key to CSHB 430.  If 80 percent of the                   
  statistics before the committee dealt with fatalities of                     
  those under 21 who were passengers, then the data is skewed                  
  and disproportionate.  He questioned if the 40 percent of                    
  youth involved in fatalities actually reflected their                        
  driving habits.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 600                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY directed REPRESENTATIVE KOTT to the ALASKA YOUTH                 
  CRASH DEATH STATISTICS and pointed out of the 108 deaths, 10                 
  involved alcohol.  She emphasized 40 percent of youth                        
  accident deaths involved alcohol.  She believed this was an                  
  awful high percentage.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 606                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY questioned what the 10 alcohol youth deaths                   
  represented 40 percent of.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 616                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY corrected she had meant 40 percent of the total                  
  number of teenagers killed involved alcohol deaths.  There                   
  was a total of 61 alcohol related accident deaths in 1992.                   
  She clarified 10 alcohol youth accident deaths out of 61                     
  total would be 16.4 percent.  There were a total of 25 youth                 
  crashes.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 619                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT questioned if the alcohol related                        
  fatalities were taken out, would there still be a                            
  disproportionate number of crashes involving those under 21.                 
                                                                               
  Number 622                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY believed the statistics would still be as high.                  
  She referred to the pie chart which states during the                        
  daytime, 32 percent of youth are involved in injury and                      
  fatal crashes.  She compared this to the adult evening                       
  statistic of 23 percent. She estimated about 36 percent of                   
  adults were involved in crashes during the daytime.                          
                                                                               
  Number 635                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated there was a motion before the                          
  committee, however, he would hold the motion until next week                 
  because a fiscal note was not provided with the committee                    
  substitute.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 638                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER withdrew her motion.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 640                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN stated they do not get fiscal notes                     
  until there is a reason for them.  He asked if CSHB 430                      
  would be killed.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 645                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY replied he did not believe there would be                     
  amendments to CSHB 430.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 646                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT said he might want to offer an amendment                 
  to page 2, line 3, which raises the age of those that can                    
  accompany a permit driver from 19.  He stated he would be                    
  more inclined to make the accompaniment a parent or legal                    
  guardian.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 654                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY addressed REPRESENTATIVE KOTT's proposed                         
  amendment.  If the provision was made a parent or legal                      
  guardian, then those individuals would be excluded from                      
  being able to take professional driver training.                             
                                                                               
  Number 656                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT felt an allowance could be made.                         
                                                                               
  Number 659                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER remembered there was a deadline for                     
  personal sponsored bills in House Rules, and noted CSHB 430                  
  was also referred to Finance.  She wanted to move it out of                  
  committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 663                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HENSLEY stated she believed CSHB 430 would have a zero                   
  fiscal note.  She mentioned the High Risk Drivers Act                        
  presently in Congress which has passed one house and is in                   
  the other, would give the states $1.2 million to implement                   
  the CSHB 430 program.  She said it was their intention to                    
  apply for Section 402 grants for any costs of                                
  implementation.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 670                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified CSHB 430 would have a zero fiscal                   
  note.  With the assurance of a zero fiscal note and                          
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER's annotation that CSHB 430 be moved                     
  from committee, he stated there was no reason CSHB 430 could                 
  not be moved from committee.                                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVES VEZEY, KOTT, ULMER, G. DAVIS,                 
                 SANDERS.                                                      
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVES B. DAVIS, OLBERG.                             
                                                                               
  MOTION PASSED                                                                
                                                                               
  (REPRESENTATIVE KOTT left the meeting at 9:36 a.m.)                          

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